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# On Playing Lean, customer development, and lean startup
- URL: https://www.pesec.no/on-playing-lean-customer-development-and-lean-startup/
- Published: 2022-03-28T07:00:00.000Z
- Updated: 2022-03-28T07:00:00.000Z
- Description: A conversation with Mal McCallion of the Growth Execution Podcast.
- Author: Bruno Pešec
- Tags: Podcast, Playing Lean, Lean Startup, Innovation

In this episode of the [Growth Execution Podcast](https://growtion.co/growth-execution-podcast-season-03-episode-61?ref=pesec.no) I talk about [Playing Lean](https://www.playinglean.com/?ref=pesec.no), [lean startup](https://www.pesec.no/lean-startup-in-a-nutshell/), and [customer development](https://www.pesec.no/customer-development-is-more-than-customer-interviews/).

Listen to the episode [here](https://link.chtbl.com/GEP-0361-Bruno-Pesec?ref=pesec.no), or using the player below: